8.8.14 - changing to 2/3 vote to hear a request for appeal (as opposed to 4/5).
(Amy: is this questions or debate? Federico: ... uhhh... Dean: it's debate.)
Amy is against the change - thinks there should be a higher threshold to hear an appeal than to pass it, so that the same set of 2/3 cannot just force the decision (ps 'conflictual' is not a word).
Rob agrees with Amy - thinks she already said what he thinks
Kennery also against the motion - we JUST changed it from 'unanimous' ... moving too far from that too quickly. SAC is objective and should only be questioned if it is very serious - hence high pass quotient
CJ is for the motion. He is worried that important miscarriages of justice will not be addressed (it s not like they are taking OUT the process...).
Amy does not want to detract from the SAC's legitimacy.
Dean - there is a difference between hearing an appeal and voting for an appeal... Thinks the threshold should be even lower! Doesn t feel that it is a LOW threshold. (SAC = existential body, apparently... WTF?)
Becky is for the motion. Wants to see the evidence to be able to decide if the appeal is valid - wants to make it more accessible to students.
Dick is against the motion, and thinks we should trust our own process of choosing arbitrators, paying due diligence, etc. Does not like that the same set of people could vote to hear and to pass. Thinks that perhaps they should switch the 2/3 and 4/5 amounts.
Cameron is against the motion, because she thinks it is inappropriate at this time. She likes Dick's idea though.
Federico - motion was submitted before the elections even happened. So, it s coincidental.
Seamus wants to clarify that the SAC is not judiciary. Doesn t know why ANYONE wouldn t want to make it easier to hear appeals. that s just WACKY! ... obvs, he is for the motion.
(ps 8.1 Functions - The judicial authority of the Federation is vested in the SAC. fail.)
Sarah Jayne thinks the issues of legitimacy are overblown.
.... lots of debate. sorry, it s getting repetitive. talk to your fave BOA member if you want to know exactly what they said...
Becky - 'i never get any info! we should just hear everything!' her argument seems to always have some sort of 'it s hard to be informed when you re at RGN' whine-fest.
Ryan - you just READ the decision. Then you are informed. Was it a solid ruling or not?
Cameron - we should table this because of our current situation. I can t not think of it.
Dick - agreed!
Tabling? nope. shot down. ridiculous.
to be con't...