Second Reading: CFS Delegation Composition

Rox: blah blah I love CFS! Trying to get everyone interested... failing mostly. 

Anyone interested? Questions?

Ted: delegate vs attache? Can we send people who can t vote?

Seamus: we can t bring someone who isn t a registered delegate to an AGM ... would be WAY too STRANGE! might not be able to figure out where they would sit! these are insurmountable ISSUES! WHAT TO DO!? bring your OWN CHAIR, perhaps? ........ pretty much, it s just too confusing.

Danika: when the actual decisions are made, there is only one vote per local. The attache might accidentally get to vote (i think that was the gist - forgive me if I am mistaken : D ) 

Kyle: how are the delegates chosen?

Rox: r-h-e-t-o-r-i-c ... the point: exec will decide. suck it if you don t like it.

Antonio: how is the staff position chosen?

Rox: more wandering explanation - hard to follow, but real message is the same: exec will decide. (just say that! so much wasted oxygen!)

Antonio: doesn t really seem to make sense to me with the corporate history approach

Seamus: we clearly need to be more specific! The exec would just probably send the executive coordinator. 

(colour me effing surprised. the hell with '42,' the answer is always: Francois!)

Kyle: how does the governance coordinator position interact with the VP Comm position

Seamus: PARAPHRASE ALERT: like everything, we create jobs depending on who we want around - like in the case of Francois! I mean, come on, 'nobody works as an island' - that s just silly! where would we find enough coconuts?!?

Amy: does not think the position should just be given to a staff member - give it to an effing student!

PJ-Saurus: completely agrees with Amy and wishes to propose an amendment: strike 4.3 (using a staff member chosen by the SFUO exec), and increase the number of members elected by the BOA to 2

*Seconded Jonathan

PJ-Saurus to motivate: Amy made a good point - staff turnover is really high. Exec mandates and focuses change every year. Does not wish to exclude staff members, but wants to open it up to students-at-large. 

Danika: the job is just soooo big - not sure a REGULAR student could catch up/understand ... employees there for more than a year should do it (FRANCOIS should do it! gawd! no one else could POSSIBLY manage!)

Dean: come on, guys, it s for institutional memory. should be an employee - those never change. moves to amend the amendment - keep the employee section...  thereby, keeping the addition of a student, but keeping the staff member as well. Seconded by Danika.

(*PJ-Saurus just wandered over to whisper sweet nothings in Seamus's ear...)

Amendment to the amendment! whee! wouldn t want to get encumbered in bureaucratic process!

Becky: man, employees are useful! I ve had them before! I loved it! let s do it!

Cheeve: down with keeping staff. 

Danika: elected students are very active in meetings. might have a fresh perspective, so she loooooves the idea of adding a student.

RPG gets some speaking rights: PJ-Saurus SAID we could bring a staff member! It can be decided by the board at the time, depending on if it is appropriate. Employees are not students-at-large and might not be best representatives. He is annoyed that they are arguing as though the motion excludes staff members, but it is not.

Julie: down with Danika.

Seamus: blah blah, I <3>

*point of information for Seamus: process and procedure are the SAME THING*

Amy: moves to extend debate - seconded by Julie. passes.

Amy: bahaha - tells Seamus he s craaaaazy. 

Federico explains that there is no such thing as a 'point of clarification' 

Amy: you are contradicting yourself - need flexibility, but need someone who knows the process inside and out - doesn t make any sense. not in the spirit of the motion.

Faris: thinks it s important to have an employee from the SFUO at the meeting.

*man, this is getting dragggggged out.

Sarah: agreeing with Faris. considering why we are there - the people there must be able to take what they get at the AGM to student life

PJ-Saurus: calls the question. passes. YES!

voting! (reminder: keep employee, but also add another student as elected by the BOA)

passes! Dean's amendment carries! 

SO, the only change is the addition of a student. vote: passes!

main motion in PART 2!